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Post by joewiggs on Nov 2, 2013 19:06:28 GMT -5
"A commissioned officer of the 7 th Cavalry who was present at the battle of the Little Big Horn, and who was not unfriendly to Reno, has told me that about the time of the arrival of the pack train Maj. Reno saluted him by holding up a flask of whiskey and that his remarks and manners were silly. Said officer stated that the incident remained distinct in his memory for one reason because the bottle was then half full and Reno did not invite him to take a drink of it."[IU, B2, F11]
On The Little Big Horn With Walter Camp
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Post by stumblingbear on Nov 3, 2013 10:06:42 GMT -5
It seems like that officer was more bothered by Reno not offering him a drink than the fact that he had one in the first place.
Joe, do you know the name of the officer?
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Post by whitebull on Nov 3, 2013 19:00:00 GMT -5
That's a good one SB! I got the same take on that one. When the main reason you remember something because you weren't offered a drink, then the rest is mere commentary! ;D
I'm beginning to think that a lot of the officers in this battle were smoke hounds. To my way of thinking, that would explain a lot about the Reno trial!
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Post by joewiggs on Nov 5, 2013 14:46:27 GMT -5
It seems like that officer was more bothered by Reno not offering him a drink than the fact that he had one in the first place. Joe, do you know the name of the officer? Whoever was in charge of the pack train (Mathey or Mc Dougall). What we have to remember is that a great many soldiers imbibed during that time;however, the Officers could afford it more and were far more privy to a supply of it. |
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Post by joewiggs on Nov 8, 2013 20:11:33 GMT -5
Camp's Opinions
[IU, B2, F11]
"To have sent Herendeen down Tullock on the night of June 24 would have been to send him without complete information as to where the trail went. Custer was then (at Busby school) some thirteen miles short of the divide, and the fact that he sent Boyer, Reynolds, [and] the Rees on a scout a 9 pm shows that he was uncertain as to just where the village was, and, as yet he could have no plans for attacking the next morning.
Study over just what information he could then (Saturday night) have sent Terry, down Tullock, that would have been certain of. the supposition was, of course, that the trail lead to the LBH, but not certainly before scouting it. Again it might just as easily have led to [the] LBH at Lodgegrass, the way the Bozeman party went in 1874, as down Reno Creek. So, for all Custer knew up to Sunday morning it might have kept on up to the Rosebud, or up Thompson Creek, to the fine grazing and water on top of the Wolf Mountains, or the trail might have split and gone both ways. "
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Post by joewiggs on Nov 8, 2013 20:17:01 GMT -5
Fighting Qualities of Regiment
[IU. B2, F11]
Many have spoken to me about the large numbers of raw recruits in the regiment at the time, and particularly how inexperienced a large proportion of the men were in handling horses. hare told me he thought the Indians' account of killed (43 or 47) was probably correct as he thought Custer's men were struck with panic and did not fight well."
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Post by joewiggs on Nov 8, 2013 20:42:30 GMT -5
Camp's Opinions
[IU, B2, F11]
"After relating the testimony of Frett and Churchill and about Reno's condition, [it seems] strange to say no officer who testified before the court happened to observe him in this condition."
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Post by whitebull on Nov 11, 2013 12:54:29 GMT -5
Fighting Qualities of Regiment [IU. B2, F11] Many have spoken to me about the large numbers of raw recruits in the regiment at the time, and particularly how inexperienced a large proportion of the men were in handling horses. hare told me he thought the Indians' account of killed (43 or 47) was probably correct as he thought Custer's men were struck with panic and did not fight well." Funny thing, Hardorff comes up with a very similar figure although that's hard to believe! |
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Post by whitebull on Nov 11, 2013 12:58:29 GMT -5
Camp's Opinions [IU, B2, F11] "After relating the testimony of Frett and Churchill and about Reno's condition, [it seems] strange to say no officer who testified before the court happened to observe him in this condition." The officer's stuck together. Benteen went out of his way to make Reno look like a sober saint and he didn't think much of Reno. In his private letters to Goldin he tore Reno to pieces! |
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Post by stumblingbear on Nov 14, 2013 13:08:55 GMT -5
That he felt one way in private and differently in public pretty much paints a picture of conclusion!
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Post by stumblingbear on Nov 14, 2013 13:12:33 GMT -5
Fighting Qualities of Regiment [IU. B2, F11] Many have spoken to me about the large numbers of raw recruits in the regiment at the time, and particularly how inexperienced a large proportion of the men were in handling horses. hare told me he thought the Indians' account of killed (43 or 47) was probably correct as he thought Custer's men were struck with panic and did not fight well." Hare may have been right with his conclusion. Did he come to the same conclusion about the men he fought with? I would think so! |
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