Post by tbw on Mar 24, 2010 12:39:19 GMT -5
Over the years I have been impressed with the vast wealth of information on the internet. It most certainly has provided forums like this where one can come to speak their thoughts, ideas and express their opinions. And I think everyone would agree, that is a good thing.
Some time back I had the opportunity to view the movie ’Saving Private Ryan’ for the first time. I was immediately and profoundly moved by George C. Marshall’s statement in the move about Abraham Lincoln’s consoling words to a “Mrs. Bixby in Boston”. Here from the movie was those words Lincoln spoke:
Gen. George C. Marshall: I have here a very old letter, written to a Mrs. Bixby in Boston.
"Dear Madam: I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant-General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom. Yours very sincerely and respectfully, Abraham Lincoln."
What moved me was not just he eloquence with which Lincoln spoke those words, but the content of it. This movie came out at a time when Iraq was still very much in question. And we had a President at the time who was continually inferring that we should “honor” them for their service. The meaning of the word ’honor’ was somewhat disturbing to hear from him at the time, and for me still is. The word honor can mean: integrity, decency, righteousness, principle, uprightness, scrupulousness, rectitude, morality, character, respect, admiration, esteem, regard, reverence, devotion, dignity, distinction, nobility, pride, decorum, graciousness, reputation, image, good name, name, renown, repute, distinction, award, tribute, credit, accolade, compliment, commendation, commemoration, remembrance, medal, badge, certificate, medallion, degree, blue ribbon, gold medal, privilege, occasion, opportunity, milestone, high-water mark, peak.
But what President Bush at the time was saying is what most people don’t recognize. It wasn’t so much that he wanted to convey any one or more of the above to the waning support of the American pubic. But more what he didn’t want them to believe, the opposite of what that word ‘honor’ stood for: Disgrace, blot, scorn, baseness. These four words sum up exactly what he was trying to convey about our troops. And the word ’honor’ was chosen because it best represented in a positive form those words without expressing them and rousing patriotic support for our troops.
While one can debate whether or not his choice of ‘word’ was correct or not. What remains after, has done much harm in determining the truth about what came before. Compare Lincoln’s ’patriotic’ letter to Mrs. Bixby. Not one word was mentioned in that letter about ’honor’, not one. Yet had Lincoln chosen to do so, we today would not have considered it wrong to have mentioned that word ’honor’. The closest Lincoln came to that word was: ’thanks’ & ’pride’. ’Thanks’ needs no definition, it means gratitude and appreciation as everyone knows. The word ’pride’ can mean: arrogance, conceit, smugness, self-importance, egotism, vanity, immodesty, superiority, self-respect, dignity, self-esteem, honor, satisfaction, pleasure, delight, gratification, enjoyment, joy, happiness, self-satisfaction.
Lincoln’s choice of word in this instance is I think revealing. Both honor and pride mean : dignity. Of all the rest the words chosen, this one best exemplifies the meaning of those words. Honor can mean ’esteem’, but ’pride’ means ’self-esteem’. Only ’pride’ exemplifies pleasure, delight, gratification, enjoyment, joy, happiness or self-satisfaction. And what better choice of word could there have been than to choose a word that didn’t mean disgrace, blot, scorn or baseness by its very use? What better word to choose than ’pride’ for it also to can mean ’honor’. When left to an eager American public to choose one of the myriad explanations for each word ’honor’ could mean, and so much more than what it was actually meant to convey. We choose patriotically to ignore all that ’pride’ engenders and accept in ignorance that which ’honor’ was not supposed to have conveyed. And all one has to do is ask oneself; are we today ’thankful’ and ’proud’ of the efforts our service men and women? And were we ’proud’ and ’thankful’ for any past service men or women that have in the past, served this country? And if we are, should this not be the proper ’honor’ to be bestowed upon them and no other.
At the end of the movie, “Saving Private Ryan” was Private Ryan’s own expression no less poignant than what ‘pride’ and ‘thankfulness’ so dearly engender:
Old James Ryan: (addressing Capt. Miller at his white cross marker and grave in France)
“My family is with me today. They wanted to come with me. To be honest with you, I wasn't sure how I'd feel coming back here. Every day I think about what you said to me that day on the bridge. I tried to live my life the best that I could. I hope that was enough. I hope that, at least in your eyes, I've earned what all of you have done for me.”
One could I suppose leave it right here, but the movie nor the realism of “thankfulness nor ’pride’ ever stops with that.
Ryan’s wife: (walks up behind James and looks at him and then at the headstone) “James?..” Then she say’s “Captain John H. Miller.”
.
James Ryan: (then stands and say’s)
“Tell me I have led a good life.” [self-esteem]
Ryan’s wife: “What?” (as if, what on earth do you mean.)
James Ryan: “Tell me I'm a good man.” [self-esteem]
Ryan's Wife: “You are.”
James Ryan: {stands back, turns around and salutes the grave of Captain John Miller). [self-satisfaction]
(Then they both walk away)
In his own way throughout this scene James Ryan was expressing his ‘thanks’ and his ‘pride’ (self-esteem) and only at the very end, after his ’dignity’ was restored by his wife’s words (self-satisfaction), did he choose bestow that ’thankfulness’ and ’pride’ with ’dignity’ to ‘honor’ Captain Miller with a salute.
So much can be missed by what I said. Perhaps its more than what some can understand. But the true meaning of those words are there for all to see and ponder. And perhaps can best be found, felt and expressed in their own feelings as they watch “Saving Private Ryan” again.
Some time back I had the opportunity to view the movie ’Saving Private Ryan’ for the first time. I was immediately and profoundly moved by George C. Marshall’s statement in the move about Abraham Lincoln’s consoling words to a “Mrs. Bixby in Boston”. Here from the movie was those words Lincoln spoke:
Gen. George C. Marshall: I have here a very old letter, written to a Mrs. Bixby in Boston.
"Dear Madam: I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant-General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom. Yours very sincerely and respectfully, Abraham Lincoln."
What moved me was not just he eloquence with which Lincoln spoke those words, but the content of it. This movie came out at a time when Iraq was still very much in question. And we had a President at the time who was continually inferring that we should “honor” them for their service. The meaning of the word ’honor’ was somewhat disturbing to hear from him at the time, and for me still is. The word honor can mean: integrity, decency, righteousness, principle, uprightness, scrupulousness, rectitude, morality, character, respect, admiration, esteem, regard, reverence, devotion, dignity, distinction, nobility, pride, decorum, graciousness, reputation, image, good name, name, renown, repute, distinction, award, tribute, credit, accolade, compliment, commendation, commemoration, remembrance, medal, badge, certificate, medallion, degree, blue ribbon, gold medal, privilege, occasion, opportunity, milestone, high-water mark, peak.
But what President Bush at the time was saying is what most people don’t recognize. It wasn’t so much that he wanted to convey any one or more of the above to the waning support of the American pubic. But more what he didn’t want them to believe, the opposite of what that word ‘honor’ stood for: Disgrace, blot, scorn, baseness. These four words sum up exactly what he was trying to convey about our troops. And the word ’honor’ was chosen because it best represented in a positive form those words without expressing them and rousing patriotic support for our troops.
While one can debate whether or not his choice of ‘word’ was correct or not. What remains after, has done much harm in determining the truth about what came before. Compare Lincoln’s ’patriotic’ letter to Mrs. Bixby. Not one word was mentioned in that letter about ’honor’, not one. Yet had Lincoln chosen to do so, we today would not have considered it wrong to have mentioned that word ’honor’. The closest Lincoln came to that word was: ’thanks’ & ’pride’. ’Thanks’ needs no definition, it means gratitude and appreciation as everyone knows. The word ’pride’ can mean: arrogance, conceit, smugness, self-importance, egotism, vanity, immodesty, superiority, self-respect, dignity, self-esteem, honor, satisfaction, pleasure, delight, gratification, enjoyment, joy, happiness, self-satisfaction.
Lincoln’s choice of word in this instance is I think revealing. Both honor and pride mean : dignity. Of all the rest the words chosen, this one best exemplifies the meaning of those words. Honor can mean ’esteem’, but ’pride’ means ’self-esteem’. Only ’pride’ exemplifies pleasure, delight, gratification, enjoyment, joy, happiness or self-satisfaction. And what better choice of word could there have been than to choose a word that didn’t mean disgrace, blot, scorn or baseness by its very use? What better word to choose than ’pride’ for it also to can mean ’honor’. When left to an eager American public to choose one of the myriad explanations for each word ’honor’ could mean, and so much more than what it was actually meant to convey. We choose patriotically to ignore all that ’pride’ engenders and accept in ignorance that which ’honor’ was not supposed to have conveyed. And all one has to do is ask oneself; are we today ’thankful’ and ’proud’ of the efforts our service men and women? And were we ’proud’ and ’thankful’ for any past service men or women that have in the past, served this country? And if we are, should this not be the proper ’honor’ to be bestowed upon them and no other.
At the end of the movie, “Saving Private Ryan” was Private Ryan’s own expression no less poignant than what ‘pride’ and ‘thankfulness’ so dearly engender:
Old James Ryan: (addressing Capt. Miller at his white cross marker and grave in France)
“My family is with me today. They wanted to come with me. To be honest with you, I wasn't sure how I'd feel coming back here. Every day I think about what you said to me that day on the bridge. I tried to live my life the best that I could. I hope that was enough. I hope that, at least in your eyes, I've earned what all of you have done for me.”
One could I suppose leave it right here, but the movie nor the realism of “thankfulness nor ’pride’ ever stops with that.
Ryan’s wife: (walks up behind James and looks at him and then at the headstone) “James?..” Then she say’s “Captain John H. Miller.”
.
James Ryan: (then stands and say’s)
“Tell me I have led a good life.” [self-esteem]
Ryan’s wife: “What?” (as if, what on earth do you mean.)
James Ryan: “Tell me I'm a good man.” [self-esteem]
Ryan's Wife: “You are.”
James Ryan: {stands back, turns around and salutes the grave of Captain John Miller). [self-satisfaction]
(Then they both walk away)
In his own way throughout this scene James Ryan was expressing his ‘thanks’ and his ‘pride’ (self-esteem) and only at the very end, after his ’dignity’ was restored by his wife’s words (self-satisfaction), did he choose bestow that ’thankfulness’ and ’pride’ with ’dignity’ to ‘honor’ Captain Miller with a salute.
So much can be missed by what I said. Perhaps its more than what some can understand. But the true meaning of those words are there for all to see and ponder. And perhaps can best be found, felt and expressed in their own feelings as they watch “Saving Private Ryan” again.